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Drcox

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Re: Destroyers!

PostSun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 am

Just putting this out there for the PHR guns, they look bigger than Medium, smaller than H. How about Mediums with ‘caliber M’ means they ruin cruisers, but are ok ca other targets?
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Re: Destroyers!

PostSun Mar 25, 2018 10:36 am

Drcox wrote:Just putting this out there for the PHR guns, they look bigger than Medium, smaller than H. How about Mediums with ‘caliber M’ means they ruin cruisers, but are ok ca other targets?


Yeah I'd love that but I think Hawk originally said they would avoid Calibre (M) as it's already an all-rounder rather than a specialist.

I know Lordprinceps has the additional knowledge of Dropzone (which I don't play) so is probably right that these are Railguns, but I'm still nurturing a kernel of hope that these are rapid-fire pulse lasers which could be called 'Pulsar': fits the theme AND PHR Laser naming convention :)

It would give the all-gun Destroyer a 'Last Starfighter' vibe.

Also, Donald (the model painter) now confirmed that PHR does indeed have the 4 Variants implied by the parts.

I suspect I'll only build Guns + Guns and Engines + Drop though :P
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Nicius

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Re: Destroyers!

PostSun Mar 25, 2018 11:39 am

If there is no anti atmo destroyer as it appears to how are they planning on handling the dropspam meta?

I really hope for an updated errate or new set of experimental rules to go with the rules for Destroyers.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostSun Mar 25, 2018 11:59 am

I also hope for anti-atmo destroyers - there is still a chance, since some of them have undefined weapon systems that might have such a role.

Andy Chambers said that he is finishing/has finished the rules for them, so there is a possibility they will be released as experimental rules before the Phase 3 book.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostSun Mar 25, 2018 5:35 pm

Someone said, that that is TT intent - to put on destroyer experimental rules when they are released and final rules in the upcoming Phase 3.

Also - I would like to applaud the weapons investigator (Lordprinceps) - the UCM triwing might indeed have weapon system like 3x3+/1/ F(N) Fusillade 3.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostMon Mar 26, 2018 5:00 am

so, according to the workers in Chicago: the UCM mass driver variant can shoot in to atmosphere without penalty. didnt ask about phr.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostMon Mar 26, 2018 5:10 am

snuggles05 wrote:so, according to the workers in Chicago: the UCM mass driver variant can shoot in to atmosphere without penalty. didnt ask about phr.

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if they're 4200 tier or 6400 tier, and if the "shooting into atmosphere without penalty" is a property of the guns themselves, or the central system.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostMon Mar 26, 2018 7:47 am

If it is anti-atmo, then I doubt those are 6400. I'm guessing they are rather 4200, possibly with fusillade.
6400 would be on the OP side, comparing with what anti-atmo weapons we currently have.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostMon Mar 26, 2018 8:30 am

Eh, if it's only just those two barrels, the anti-atmo version of a 6400 would probably just look like this:

UF-6400-AA: 3+ lock, 2 attack, 1 damage, F, Anti-Atmospheric

Comes out to a nice, clean average of 1 damage per firing against 4+ armor (a little bit more against 5+, a little bit less against 3+), resulting in about two turns of shooting to bring down a single UCM or Scourge strike carrier or a Shaltari voidgate. It would come out to somewhere inbetween one and two corvettes, and at a significantly increased price.
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Re: Destroyers!

PostMon Mar 26, 2018 3:28 pm

Lordprinceps wrote:Eh, if it's only just those two barrels, the anti-atmo version of a 6400 would probably just look like this:

UF-6400-AA: 3+ lock, 2 attack, 1 damage, F, Anti-Atmospheric

Comes out to a nice, clean average of 1 damage per firing against 4+ armor (a little bit more against 5+, a little bit less against 3+), resulting in about two turns of shooting to bring down a single UCM or Scourge strike carrier or a Shaltari voidgate. It would come out to somewhere inbetween one and two corvettes, and at a significantly increased price.



The issue with this is that corvettes are s*** at anti drop spam as it is. So balancing it off them is potentially not the best?
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