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DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostSun Jan 08, 2017 11:48 am

Lorn wrote:Nonsense utter nonsense. Without that rule you would be able to split ships in the same BG avoiding such situations in the first place and you are more likely to place ships that want to split in the same BG avoiding confusion. I have the exact opposite experience in my games. It is still a terrible design decision.


Agreed. We actually ignore rule 40 in our group because it just makes things awkward.
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostSat Jan 14, 2017 6:19 pm

It prevents spam to a certain extent and gives options to improve CAW.

Im not sure why theres so much anger over it.
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostSun Jan 15, 2017 5:31 am

Grey Mage wrote:Im not sure why theres so much anger over it.


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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostSun Apr 09, 2017 8:50 am

Grey Mage wrote:It prevents spam to a certain extent and gives options to improve CAW.

Im not sure why theres so much anger over it.


Because planning ahead and preparing a fleet list are hard!
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostSun Apr 09, 2017 3:31 pm

Apparently replying to the actual arguments raised against it is much harder even in case of Threadnecromancy ;) .

German space magic for PHR would you like to know more?
http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7017
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostMon Apr 10, 2017 2:00 am

The argument was... "i don't like this rule because it forces planning out a fleetlist to avoid auto grouping". The answer is "this is a strategy game, and that requires such planning regardless"

Also, it's not necromancy when it's still on the first page. :p
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostMon Apr 10, 2017 9:14 am

And you missed the X other threads about the topic where it was argued back and forth nice job. This forum has a search function.

cypheon wrote:Also, it's not necromancy when it's still on the first page. :p


Well if you had something new to say instead of sneering at other people certainly not. Not to pick on you but that is an odd choice for your first post.

German space magic for PHR would you like to know more?
http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7017
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostTue Apr 11, 2017 12:40 am

Former threads I can see, and the arguments posted in them. Please do comment on them if I've missed or misrepresented an argument.

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http://hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8960 ("Groups", 5 pages)
It's confusing. No argument there.
It encourages spreading groups out. Debatably a good or bad thing.
It encourages not spreading groups out. As above.

http://hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=9332 ("Groups and Groups", 8 pages)
It buffs CAW.
Various location-related interactions eg. covering clusters.
Bigger groups don't have the opportunity to use active scan as often.
It limits tactical choices such as splitting fire or choosing to take the +1SR hit to split up.
Spam is bad, we hate spam, this limits spam.
Spam is good, we love spam, this limits spam.

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This is all I can see from titles in the rules query forum and the first 8 pages of the general discussion forum. There may be other locations for discussion in other threads, and if you know where they are perhaps you could bring them up here so we can see the arguments since Lorn can't be bothered restating them.
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Re: DFC: dont hate me another "G" Topic again! ;-P

PostTue Apr 11, 2017 6:47 am

No, please, let's just let this topic rest in peace... :cry:
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