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1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

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SOLAR FLARE

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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostSat Aug 05, 2017 7:46 pm

I'll definitely want to hold on to the Moscow. It's just such an great model. Honestly I like it's stats too.
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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostSat Aug 05, 2017 8:20 pm

SOLAR FLARE wrote:I'll definitely want to hold on to the Moscow. It's just such an great model. Honestly I like it's stats too.


Get rid of the Avalon then and get 2 New Cairos instead? :)
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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostSun Aug 06, 2017 4:21 am

Have been juggling a bit. I just could not resist to go totally nuts ... see for your self:

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UCM Strike Fleet - 1249pts
UCM - 12 launch assets

SR20 Vanguard battlegroup (410pts)
1 x Johannesburg - 205pts - H
   + UCM Vice-Admiral (80pts, 4AV)
1 x Johannesburg - 205pts - H

SR11 Vanguard battlegroup (200pts)
1 x Moscow - 163pts - H
1 x Lima - 37pts - L

SR5 Line battlegroup (132pts)
1 x Seattle - 132pts - M

SR5 Line battlegroup (132pts)
1 x Seattle - 132pts - M

SR8 Pathfinder battlegroup (207pts)
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L
1 x New Orleans - 32pts - L
1 x San Francisco - 111pts - M

SR4 Pathfinder battlegroup (128pts)
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L
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Ok, back to reasonable:

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UCM Strike Fleet - 1244pts
UCM - 6 launch assets

SR11 Vanguard battlegroup (200pts)
1 x Moscow - 163pts - H
1 x Lima - 37pts - L

SR10 Vanguard battlegroup (195pts)
1 x Perth - 195pts - H
   + UCM Vice-Admiral (80pts, 4AV)

SR10 Line battlegroup (237pts)
1 x Seattle - 132pts - M
1 x Berlin - 105pts - M

SR10 Line battlegroup (237pts)
1 x Seattle - 132pts - M
1 x Berlin - 105pts - M

SR4 Pathfinder battlegroup (128pts)
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L

SR8 Pathfinder battlegroup (207pts)
2 x New Orleans - 64pts - L
1 x New Orleans - 32pts - L
1 x San Francisco - 111pts - M
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Also with this list I have optimized the amount of products I would have to acquire.
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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostSun Aug 06, 2017 5:28 pm

I would still split those double cruiser battlegroups, SR10 isn't going to do you any favours (Line BGs should generally have an SR in the 5-9 range).
The full Pathfinder BG of New Orleans also feels like a missed opportunity.
If you exchanged the places of the Seattles with a couple of New Orleans the fleet would feel less clunky.
My fleet works to strategy ratings of 9/14, ie; Pathfinder and Line Battlegroups have a maximum SR of 9 unless I have Light Cruisers and max 14 if I do have Light Cruisers or a Vanguard Battlegroup.
What that means in practice is that an opposing battleship will always lose initiative. An opposing Heavy Cruiser, Battlecruiser or pair of light cruisers will always lose initiative against my standard Line and Pathfinder Battlegroups and will likely lose against my Battlecruiser due to the presence of a senior officer. One would hope that my Light Cruisers weren't facing off against an enemy Battlecruiser.
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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostWed Aug 16, 2017 7:30 pm

Last one is not bad actually, apart from a couple of notes. Lima is not going to do you much good. I think it makes sense to use Lima's if you take two of them in something like a double Moscow BG, and aim to achieve first strike VS PHR or Shaltari. Otherwise you'd be better off taking another NO or Jakarta and put it into Perth BG - that battlecruiser is not as dependant on weapons free as moscow.

I would also move a pair of NO from SanFran BG to other pathfinder BG. If you take a single SF, you'd want to put her into as low SR group as possible, so you can achieve second turn ninja drop as last activation.

You don't have any corvettes, which means if enemy takes them and focuses on killing your SanFran, you can easily loose a sector. However, this might not be critical and depends on your meta.

Otherwise, it's pretty solid, I dig it.
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Re: 1250 pts UCMF (feedback pls)

PostThu Aug 17, 2017 10:43 pm

Oh it's an odd meta, it's just him, his only opponent is his own Scourge list, posted in the Scourge section.
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